BON JOVI

[Twisted_rock]

bon jovi used to be one of my fave bands when i was a little un
but they changed yup i get that rock bands do the occassional ballad however when 70% - 90% of the album is ballads and it aint a ballads album then im sorry but that in my book is a boy band.
if this makes me unpopular so be it dont think im popular anyway and have no wish to be

[will]

bon jovi used to be one of my fave bands when i was a little un
but they changed yup i get that rock bands do the occassional ballad however when 70% - 90% of the album is ballads and it aint a ballads album then im sorry but that in my book is a boy band.
if this makes me unpopular so be it dont think im popular anyway and have no wish to be
It doesnt make you unpopular it means you have a opinion. The only time i have a problem with people bashing them is when there doing it for no reason. Everyone should be here to talk about the bands they like not for members to bash them at every possible moment that would just drive avrage users away. But hey your music taste cant be perfect [con]

:wink:

[Twisted_rock]

as it would seem with ur self

[will]

as it would seem with ur self
It includes more than one style which is more than i can say for yours.

[Joeykid]

woah hang on! what album are you on about thats full of ballads? u say album, nt albumS

:S

do you mean TLFR, in my opinion they're not ballads, i mean they are but i see it as theoriginal still but they have been re-worked for a one off performance and an album, not for a tour and an entire new buisness plan out look of th band.

[Twisted_rock]

as it would seem with ur self
It includes more than one style which is more than i can say for yours.

hardley do your home work where does my name come from??
so if ya find out that then you will know that i dont just like metal!

[Twisted_rock]

woah hang on! what album are you on about thats full of ballads? u say album, nt albumS

:S

do you mean TLFR, in my opinion they're not ballads, i mean they are but i see it as theoriginal still but they have been re-worked for a one off performance and an album, not for a tour and an entire new buisness plan out look of th band.

this left feels right i think mutilated some off jovis best work if it aint broke...

also these days was way bad any thing after keep the faith in my opinion sux!! with the exception of damned + undiveded

[will]

woah hang on! what album are you on about thats full of ballads? u say album, nt albumS

:S

do you mean TLFR, in my opinion they're not ballads, i mean they are but i see it as theoriginal still but they have been re-worked for a one off performance and an album, not for a tour and an entire new buisness plan out look of th band.

this left feels right i think mutilated some off jovis best work if it aint broke...

also these days was way bad any thing after keep the faith in my opinion sux!! with the exception of damned + undiveded
To almost everyone i know these days is bon jovis best ever album.

[Twisted_rock]

woah hang on! what album are you on about thats full of ballads? u say album, nt albumS

:S

do you mean TLFR, in my opinion they're not ballads, i mean they are but i see it as theoriginal still but they have been re-worked for a one off performance and an album, not for a tour and an entire new buisness plan out look of th band.

this left feels right i think mutilated some off jovis best work if it aint broke...

also these days was way bad any thing after keep the faith in my opinion sux!! with the exception of damned + undiveded
To almost everyone i know these days is bon jovis best ever album.

well now you know some one who hates it lol

[Anonymous]

Well you don't like ballads, OK.. listen to Slippery or New Jersey.. Or 7800 Fahrenheit.

[will]

Well you don't like ballads, OK.. listen to Slippery or New Jersey.. Or 7800 Fahrenheit.
Or bon jovi or ktf or a good bit of bounce [roc]

[will]

oh yeah and i forgot [justin]

[Joeykid]

woah hang on! what album are you on about thats full of ballads? u say album, nt albumS

:S

do you mean TLFR, in my opinion they're not ballads, i mean they are but i see it as theoriginal still but they have been re-worked for a one off performance and an album, not for a tour and an entire new buisness plan out look of th band.

this left feels right i think mutilated some off jovis best work if it aint broke...

also these days was way bad any thing after keep the faith in my opinion sux!! with the exception of damned + undiveded

i partly agree with the TLFR comment but only partly, somethings sound abit better and some worse...as for these days, well lyrically its thier strongest album, had the strongest tour and also had the strongest sales.

reasong being is the way its so from the heart.

with bounce i personally think its tacky, for the reason as bruce and other such artists were writing to dedicate to 9/11 then BJ changed thier minds and decided to do it, i think that was a little stupid, like just to look good sort of thing THOUGH saying that i know that 9/11 was close to them as most americans.

[will]

woah hang on! what album are you on about thats full of ballads? u say album, nt albumS

:S

do you mean TLFR, in my opinion they're not ballads, i mean they are but i see it as theoriginal still but they have been re-worked for a one off performance and an album, not for a tour and an entire new buisness plan out look of th band.

this left feels right i think mutilated some off jovis best work if it aint broke...

also these days was way bad any thing after keep the faith in my opinion sux!! with the exception of damned + undiveded

i partly agree with the TLFR comment but only partly, somethings sound abit better and some worse...as for these days, well lyrically its thier strongest album, had the strongest tour and also had the strongest sales.

reasong being is the way its so from the heart.

with bounce i personally think its tacky, for the reason as bruce and other such artists were writing to dedicate to 9/11 then BJ changed thier minds and decided to do it, i think that was a little stupid, like just to look good sort of thing THOUGH saying that i know that 9/11 was close to them as most americans.
Joey you do know that bounce was originaly meant to be released before bruce's sept 11 album right. It was delade so infact they didnt change there mind at all. :?

[talos]

Well you don't like ballads, OK.. listen to Slippery or New Jersey.. Or 7800 Fahrenheit.

i love slippery when wet is my fave jovi album

[Joeykid]

woah hang on! what album are you on about thats full of ballads? u say album, nt albumS

:S

do you mean TLFR, in my opinion they're not ballads, i mean they are but i see it as theoriginal still but they have been re-worked for a one off performance and an album, not for a tour and an entire new buisness plan out look of th band.

this left feels right i think mutilated some off jovis best work if it aint broke...

also these days was way bad any thing after keep the faith in my opinion sux!! with the exception of damned + undiveded

i partly agree with the TLFR comment but only partly, somethings sound abit better and some worse...as for these days, well lyrically its thier strongest album, had the strongest tour and also had the strongest sales.

reasong being is the way its so from the heart.

with bounce i personally think its tacky, for the reason as bruce and other such artists were writing to dedicate to 9/11 then BJ changed thier minds and decided to do it, i think that was a little stupid, like just to look good sort of thing THOUGH saying that i know that 9/11 was close to them as most americans.
Joey you do know that bounce was originaly meant to be released before bruce's sept 11 album right. It was delade so infact they didnt change there mind at all. :?

nope, bon jovi had written songs for a new album BUT scrapped them and re-wrote for Bounce. 'inlight of the tragic events...'

also a point i meant to make but i was abit side tracked, bruces songs seem to reflect abit of feeling...those BJ songs aimed at 9/11 such as bounce, well the lyrics kind of im not sure, yes its blatently obvious but it doesnt seem to touch the heart like bruce's did, bon jovi then release them as singles (like everyday) and then it becomes a money making scheme :?

[will]

Bon jovi were a money making scheme. Let me gets this strait its ok for someone like bruce to release a album soley exploiting sep 11 but for bon jovi to make a couple of refrences in one song (the others there to vague mean differnt things to everyone) there schemig money?. What the fuck explain that logic please!. And yeah in the jon bon jovi biography i read it says the album was due out the week before the springsteen one and it was put back.

[Joeykid]

the release of bounce mate was officially put back 3 times, i belive i might even have the delivery notes from the record lable around here somewhere.

and no bruce didnt soley release an album to exploit 9/11 bruce and the band are constantly writing material as with bon jovi but BJ decided to scrap it just to right about 9/11, then half of the tracks turnd into pop stylie songs and they released everyday that in jons words is to live each day to the fullest in light of tragic events.

well what im getting at is how they can release the track and fill thier pockets with a song that was meant to have such an effect to them, it was meant to have meaning and passion...well then why make money off it? im reffering to the release of bounce there, the track released in the far east. everyday is a tiny bit different as it can get to people in different ways but bounce was sop blatent :S

all im saying is there way of writing from the heart is simply writing for the chart.

[Jovi_Goo]

TLFR was a different album for jovi...and its had good reviews ect...
i didnt like it at first but then its kinda grown on me!
and as for all the other albums i love em! and im torn between KTF and TD albums...no idea which 1 is my fav!

but its said that TD is meant ot be jovis best album ever...its their darkest anyways.
but everyone has an opinion, so let it be!

em x

[Joeykid]

"so let it be..." no em, this is a heated discussion, not argument, this is cool, its what should be on discussion boards..we aint arguing ;)

erm yes TD is said to be thier best as its thier darkest :S most know i listen to ALOT of depressing music, sad slower songs usually, well sometimes its just the best out, when someone is a little down usually what they say is comeing from the heart, it just seems to mean more, you dont fake it ya know?

well thats how i feel on the subject anyway

[will]

the release of bounce mate was officially put back 3 times, i belive i might even have the delivery notes from the record lable around here somewhere.

and no bruce didnt soley release an album to exploit 9/11 bruce and the band are constantly writing material as with bon jovi but BJ decided to scrap it just to right about 9/11, then half of the tracks turnd into pop stylie songs and they released everyday that in jons words is to live each day to the fullest in light of tragic events.

well what im getting at is how they can release the track and fill thier pockets with a song that was meant to have such an effect to them, it was meant to have meaning and passion...well then why make money off it? im reffering to the release of bounce there, the track released in the far east. everyday is a tiny bit different as it can get to people in different ways but bounce was sop blatent :S

all im saying is there way of writing from the heart is simply writing for the chart.
Writing for the chart? yeah cause bounce sounds so much like the coldpalys and oasis's that manage to be the only rock bands that chart :roll: . Those songs were in the bon jovi style esp bounce thats vintage bon jovi and you know it. Now the only track that has been written for sep 11 is undivided or havent you watched that video footage that comes at the end of the bounce album. And as i said everyday and bounce are too vague to be regarded as sep 11 songs those songs will be interpreted by everyone as something differnt.

[ncgayguy]

there's been dozens of country music songs written about 9/11... hell even Enrique Iglasious (sp?) song "hero" made a reappearance after 9/11, the View, and few other shows had him back on TV singing it again here in the US. People write songs... they should be able to write whatever will sale and do whatever they want to with the money they make from the music they write, sing, perform, etc. *END* :roll:

[Joeykid]

the release of bounce mate was officially put back 3 times, i belive i might even have the delivery notes from the record lable around here somewhere.

and no bruce didnt soley release an album to exploit 9/11 bruce and the band are constantly writing material as with bon jovi but BJ decided to scrap it just to right about 9/11, then half of the tracks turnd into pop stylie songs and they released everyday that in jons words is to live each day to the fullest in light of tragic events.

well what im getting at is how they can release the track and fill thier pockets with a song that was meant to have such an effect to them, it was meant to have meaning and passion...well then why make money off it? im reffering to the release of bounce there, the track released in the far east. everyday is a tiny bit different as it can get to people in different ways but bounce was sop blatent :S

all im saying is there way of writing from the heart is simply writing for the chart.
Writing for the chart? yeah cause bounce sounds so much like the coldpalys and oasis's that manage to be the only rock bands that chart :roll: . Those songs were in the bon jovi style esp bounce thats vintage bon jovi and you know it. Now the only track that has been written for sep 11 is undivided or havent you watched that video footage that comes at the end of the bounce album. And as i said everyday and bounce are too vague to be regarded as sep 11 songs those songs will be interpreted by everyone as something differnt.

i did watch the EPK when it was out yeah but i go on what gets said at shows, dont forget i listen to far too many bootlegs (LOL) and im not sure, not much was said during european bounce tour shows as appose to the US/Canada but they talk more to the crowd...minus hyde park that is.

i dunno, the more the toppic goes on the more we both say points i kinda agrre with but one thing, bounce isnt like vintage bon jovi, vintage bon jovi is good time 'hair metal' thats funky hair, tight spandex and alot of hair spray to go with it all......we dont get that anymore, i know i know the times are a changeing, i take both sides of the argument unlike many on jovitalk who stick to one opinion but i dont know...TD just seemed to mean so much and everything after seems fake, maybe i need to look at it in a different way but i know i share that opinion with many

[GBH2004]

Please the newst album is about the only time that bon jovi have shown any inventivness. There past efforts are all the same bland pop rock. This time they have gone differnt into a much more respectable artistic area its only understandable that the funs of the previous stuff dont like it. I may not like the album to much but its the first one i respect.

[Joeykid]

yes i fully agree with you there GBH, i see what your getting at, just the only thing is you said, and i quote "There past efforts are all the same bland pop rock." well yes, but your forgetting how much of an effect These Days had, that was such a chage from thier debut self titled Bon Jovi album

[GBH2004]

yes i fully agree with you there GBH, i see what your getting at, just the only thing is you said, and i quote "There past efforts are all the same bland pop rock." well yes, but your forgetting how much of an effect These Days had, that was such a chage from thier debut self titled Bon Jovi album
Yes these days is a ok album. Unfortunatly that sound was dropped for the more commercial crush which as it goes isnt the worst thing i have heard. I heard a awful rumor that bon jovi started the unplugged craze not sure if thats right or not but 'tlfr' is at least some evidence they could do such a thing its inventive!. And as for the this left feels right title to me that signals that they are justifying the sound of the album and why the hell should they?.

[Joeykid]

WOAH! nice one matey, i like what your saying, see i dont like crush as an album, BUT i do like a fair feew tracks... (weird i know!) and it was a very commercial album but i guess it sold, the tour was ok and like i said i liked some tracks, yeah i like these sorts of debates, when the bashing isnt involved they're kinda intresting haha