Clarifying a few things...

[santa]

Ok, so here it goes. All your favorite mainstream bands are not emo. This includes:
Fall Out Boy
My Chemical Romance
Hawthorne Heights
Blink-182
Green Day
Good Charlotte
Taking Back Sunday (Used to be, Tell All Your Friends etc etc.)

And whatever else. Emo music was born as a form of punk in the early eighties, with emotional lyrics. This was pretty much called emotive hardcore, shortened too emo. Bands like Moss Icon and Rites of Spring were among the few first emo bands, with Rites of Spring being credited with creating the emo music genre.

[redbassist66]

lol, yeah, most of us know. IC and i use the wiki link to emo far to much to explain to brain dead 14 year old girls what emo really is

[mutton]

Well it seems this forum isn't talking about emotive hardcore, but emo (slang) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29), which associates to a different sort of music. Lots of words get bent out of shape by popular culture and common connotations are swayed by at least some of them, gradually becoming accepted. So it's probably safer to say "emotive hardcore" rather than angrily giving an elaborate explanation any time someone misunderstands "emo".

[santa]

I made this thread so people don't come here and make emo threads about bands such as the ones I listed above, and to give one a general explanation of where the emo music genre came from.

[mutton]

Wouldn't The Hardcore Haven be more appropriate to talk about real emo? I think that was the reason for this split.

[santa]

True, in some ways, but since most people with no knowledge of emo music came here simply because it was titled emo wouldn't get mixed up.

[redbassist66]

Wouldn't The Hardcore Haven be more appropriate to talk about real emo? I think that was the reason for this split.

but this is the Emo forum...meaning we discuss emo...which is emotional hardcore and pop-punk emo...

[Darwee]

Who the hell would say Green Day is emo? I got Dookie when I was in 5th grade. Emo didn't exist then :p

[redbassist66]

some guy on here last year asked if green day was emo. look back in the history a little while for the topic. i died a little bit when i read it

[santa]

Yeah, any band with a poppy sound is now considered emo.

[slampig]

I have to disagree with this a bit. Emo is "scenester" music. So those bands do qualify as emo to me with the exception of Green Day. I understand where your coming from and the history of it but all music is emotional. Just about every band I know of sings about love. So in that sense every band could be labeled emo. This is why the genre to me is classified with these bands. Because they have a whiny sound and dress girly and gay. That's emo.

If we started putting any band who had emotional lyrics and love songs in the emo bin then everything would be in there. I know a while ago when I listened to some bands that were pop punk it was usually classified as pop punk. The pop punk term is sort of gone now. Really, it doesn't matter though. When someone says emo you know what they are talking about.

[Tom Cruise]

I made this thread so people don't come here and make emo threads about bands such as the ones I listed above, and to give one a general explanation of where the emo music genre came from.

no you came in here to try and be a musical snob

[ryanvsrobots]

Ok, so here it goes. All your favorite mainstream bands are not emo. This includes:
Fall Out Boy
My Chemical Romance
Hawthorne Heights
Blink-182
Green Day
Good Charlotte
Taking Back Sunday (Used to be, Tell All Your Friends etc etc.)

And whatever else. Emo music was born as a form of punk in the early eighties, with emotional lyrics. This was pretty much called emotive hardcore, shortened too emo. Bands like Moss Icon and Rites of Spring were among the few first emo bands, with Rites of Spring being credited with creating the emo music genre.

i agree, these bands are all poprock or poppunk

[lopoetve]

some guy on here last year asked if green day was emo. look back in the history a little while for the topic. i died a little bit when i read it

ROFL

[IndependentClauses]

The pop punk term is sort of gone now. Really, it doesn't matter though. When someone says emo you know what they are talking about.

Yeah, I miss the term pop-punk. As gloriously ironic as it was, it did portray the sound pretty accurately. IndependentClauses.com still uses the term pop-punk, and I'm glad for that. Then again, we don't review much pop-punk, but hey - we still use it when we can.

And I agree that when someone says 'emo' you know what they're talking about. It's sad, though - because the emo I stand for sounds nothing like the emo that everyone knows about.

it's a rough life for purists....

[redbassist66]

lol...yeah, we really don't review much pop-punk anymore. i kind of took care of that didn't i?

[IndependentClauses]

What's really funny is that Nate is in an irish-punk band and totally digs pop-punk. I funnel all of it his way.

And Andrea likes pop-punk too - she's doing all the lobster stuff.

You and I's collective disdain for the four-chord immaturity just permeated the readership, I think....

[Triple N]

Once again i am compelled to ask, who care's what's it's called? Good is good, what you call it is immaterial.